I think a lot of people in the K-pop fandom still treat BTS as nobodys because of their social media presence. I also think because of this they are so confused on their major success across social media and the world, so they often try to make excuses or down play a lot of their successes. I have seen BTS in places I did not think I would. Even people who do not even know what K-pop is know who they are. Their popularity is real and not just a phase.